Tom and Don are Talking Real Money
Money and funny? Yes, the two can go together. Toss in honesty and transparency, mix with true financial science, and you have the most unique investing podcast in America. Listen as two of the country's top financial broadcasters and educators show you how to stop playing with your hard-earned money and start investing it for YOUR future. Tom Cock was the host of the PBS-TV show “Serious Money” for many years, and Don McDonald hosted a nationally syndicated financial talk show since 1988. Today, Tom and Don are still dishing out simple, straightforward financial advice on one of the most popular investing podcasts in the world.
Recent Episodes
2002
Oct. 19, 2026
Ep. 2002: The Buggy Whip Theory
The “Buggy Whip Theory” is a reminder that even when investors correctly see the future coming, they rarely know which company—or which part of a new industry—will actually win. Don and Tom trace the lesson from ice delivery and buggy whips to streaming, airlines, and artificial intelligence.
They also explain why rebalancing is portfolio maintenance rather than market timing, what falling municipal-bond prices really mean, and how to calculate international exposure as a percentage of the stoc
They also explain why rebalancing is portfolio maintenance rather than market timing, what falling municipal-bond prices really mean, and how to calculate international exposure as a percentage of the stoc
2001
Oct. 16, 2026
Ep. 2001: A New Millennium of Money Questions
Episode 2001 begins a new millennium of money questions—with Don sorting out the numbering before tackling inherited IRAs, CD ladders, Roth conversions, workplace retirement plans, Warren Buffett’s famously simple portfolio advice, and capital-gains harvesting for children. The common thread is simplicity with enough diversification and tax planning to avoid expensive surprises. 01:07 Welcome to Episode 2001 04:27 Simplifying inherited IRAs 09:13 Building an automatic CD ladder 11:46 Roth conv
2000
Oct. 15, 2026
Ep. 2000: Bonds Are Doing Their Job
Bond prices are falling as yields rise—and that does not mean diversification has failed. Don and Tom explain why high-quality bonds can decline when stocks and the economy are strong, why that behavior is normal, and why chasing high-yield or “alternative” bond funds can quietly turn the conservative side of a portfolio into more stock-market risk. They also answer questions about Roth conversions after required minimum distributions have begun, whether conversion taxes should ever come from r
1999
Oct. 14, 2026
Ep. 1999: IRA Mistakes You Can’t Undo
Some IRA mistakes cannot simply be reversed. Don and Tom explain the traps around non-spouse beneficiary transfers, the one-rollover-per-year rule, 72(t) plans, the same-property rollover rule, outdated beneficiaries, qualified charitable distributions, missed RMDs, and portfolio drift. Then Mike from Salt Lake City asks how aggressively he should convert a traditional IRA to Roth before Social Security and future inherited assets change the tax picture. Don and Tom discuss bracket management,
1998
Oct. 13, 2026
Ep. 1998: The S&P 500 or the Whole World?
Don and Tom compare the S&P 500 with total-market and globally diversified investing, explain the danger of home bias, and show why owning more of the world can reduce concentration risk. Then they answer questions about Roth conversions, bond-fund losses, CD ladders, and matching a risk score to a stock-bond allocation. 00:00 Oktoberfest musical intro 01:23 S&P 500 versus the whole market 04:18 Why global diversification matters 09:07 Home bias around the world 13:11 A lost decade for the S&P
1997
Oct. 12, 2026
Ep. 1997: The Lemmings Didn’t Jump
Don and Tom use Disney’s infamous lemming myth to explain investor herd behavior, recency bias, and the danger of chasing whatever has recently been hot. Then they answer questions about simplifying a diversified portfolio, evaluating a long-held annuity, and why “Bank on Yourself” whole-life strategies create more problems than they solve. 00:00 The lemming film clip 00:56 The lemmings didn’t jump 02:21 The lemming corollary 04:38 Herd behavior in tech, crypto, and markets 07:58 When the crowd
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